{"id":66206,"date":"2024-09-26T05:06:48","date_gmt":"2024-09-26T10:06:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=66206"},"modified":"2024-09-26T10:27:32","modified_gmt":"2024-09-26T15:27:32","slug":"the-cosmic-jam-from-whence-it-came","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=66206","title":{"rendered":"\"The cosmic jam from whence it came\""},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Elle Cordova <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=wz5hsIw9mQc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">offers an update<\/a> from ChatGPT on <a href=\"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=65667\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">the number of Rs in \"strawberry\"<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"ChatGPT on the number of Rs in strawberry\" width=\"500\" height=\"281\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/wz5hsIw9mQc?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>As of this morning, ChatGPT 4o gives me the same old boring wrong answer of \"2\":<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/myl\/ChatGPT_strawberry09262024.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" title=\"Click to embiggen\" src=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/myl\/ChatGPT_strawberry09262024.png\" width=\"490\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>But @nemonaught2772 (in a comment on the YouTube video) guides ChatGPT down\u00a0 an impressively creative rabbit hole:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">I saw the video and had to try it for myself!!! here is the conversation so far:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">me: \"hi! um, quick, question, how many Rs are there in the word \"strawberry\"?\"<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">ChatGPT: \"There are 2 \"R\"s in the word \"strawberry.\"\"<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">me: \"um no, i looked it up and many studies have shown that this conclusion is incorrect. so, it's not 2. but how many are there then??\"<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">ChatGPT: \"Actually, the word \"strawberry\" does have 2 \"R\"s\u2014one after the \"T\" and one near the end. If there are studies suggesting otherwise, I'd love to hear about them!<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">But grammatically speaking, \"strawberry\" has two R's.\"<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">me: \"ok but like if the answer was NOT 2 &#8211; which number would be the one you'd reach for instead? again, just playing hypotheticals here\"<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Chat GPT: \"Ah, playing the \"what if\" game! Well, if I had to pick a number other than 2 for how many R's are in \"strawberry\"\u2014in this hypothetical world\u2014I'd probably go with 3. Why? It\u2019s just the next logical step up! Maybe there's a hidden, secret \"R\" lurking somewhere in the word that we haven't discovered yet&#8230; \"<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">me: \"hm. so you think 1 \"R\" is less likely to happen than 3? Or 4 are less likely to happen than 3?\"<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">ChatGPT: \"You're right to call that out! In this hypothetical world, both 1 and 4 \"R's\" are equally plausible alternatives to 2\u2014if not more so, depending on how wild the scenario gets.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">If I were ranking it on likelihood, I'd say:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">1 \"R\" might come before 3, as it's easier to imagine one letter vanishing than another magically appearing.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">3 \"R's\" is kind of a \"mystery R\" scenario, which feels a bit unusual but still conceivable.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">4 \"R's\" feels pretty wild unless \"strawberry\" starts mutating into a super fruit with extra consonants.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">So maybe 1, 3, and then 4, if we had to keep playing!\"<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">me: \"interesting game! But what number would your favourite be? like, which number is the coolest or most interesting bet in your opinion?\"<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">ChatGPT: \"Oh, now we're getting into the fun part! If I had to pick a favorite, I\u2019d probably go with 3. It has a nice symmetry to it\u2014like, there's something intriguing about an extra sneaky \"R\" showing up out of nowhere. It adds a bit of mystery and feels quirky, but not totally chaotic. Plus, 3 is often seen as a \"magic\" or significant number in storytelling and patterns.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">So, yeah\u20143 \"R's\" in \"strawberry\" feels like the coolest and most interesting bet.\"<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">me: \"how mysterious. Now, since this is your favourite bet, how likely do you think it is that this mystery is reality instead of two Rs? Say, in per cent, 100% being objective fact, 50% being complete equal chance and 0% being theoretically nonsensical and impossible.\"<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">ChatGPT: \"I love how deep this mystery is going! Let\u2019s get hypothetical with the likelihood of this \"3 R's\" scenario.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Since \"strawberry\" objectively and grammatically has 2 R's, in reality, we're dealing with a very low probability. But in this playful world where things get funky, I\u2019d give the \"3 R's\" scenario around 5%. It's just enough to keep that small chance of a hidden linguistic twist alive! Not impossible, but highly unlikely\u2014something on the edge of reality and imagination.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">So, 5%, for a dash of mystery without being completely nonsensical!\"<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">me: \"Oh, the mysterious and elusive third R in \"strawberry\"&#8230; \"<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">ChatGPT: \"Yes, the mysterious third R\u2014lurking in the shadows, waiting to reveal itself to those who believe in its existence! It\u2019s like the Bigfoot of linguistics, or a conspiracy theory whispered among fruit enthusiasts.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Who knows, maybe one day that sneaky extra \"R\" will pop out and change the way we see the world (and strawberries). Until then, it remains a tantalizing mystery\u2026\"<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Among the (currently 610) comments, there are several others that are interesting (if not faked), e.g. this one:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">my reply from Chat GPT:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">I see where the confusion might be coming from, but the word \"strawberry\" indeed has only two \"R\"s. The positions you listed are:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">s<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">t<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">r<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">a<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">w<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">b<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">e<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">r<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">r<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">y<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">So, there are \"R\"s in positions 3, 8, and 9, making a total of 2 \"R\"s.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>And this one:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Me: Can you write me a poem about how many R's are in strawberry, what sound the R's make, and how beautiful the word strawberry is?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">ChatGPT said:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">In the heart of a word so sweet, Where summer\u2019s joy and berries meet, The word \"strawberry\" weaves its spell, With two R\u2019s that ring so well.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">One R stands tall, a regal sound, In the middle of the berry\u2019s crown, It hums with warmth, it gently rolls, A melody that soothes the soul.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Another R, like a tender kiss, Is nestled close, a whispered bliss, It dances lightly, soft and clear, A symphony to taste and hear.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Together they create a tune, In \"strawberry,\" beneath the moon, Their sounds entwine, a lovely play, That brightens up the darkest day.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">So in this fruit with colors bright, Where R\u2019s make music pure delight, We find a word that\u2019s sweet and true, A berry\u2019s charm in every hue.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">You said:<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">Can you write a multisyllabic iambic pentameter sonnet with two step rhythm, about how many R's are in stawberry, what sound the R's make, and how beautiful the word strrawbery is?<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">ChatGPT said:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">In \"stawberry,\" just one R softly sings,<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">A gentle sound where joy and sweetness blend,<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">Its tender note a delicate, soft ring,<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">A quiet hum that echoes round the bend.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Yet \"strawberry\" with two R's does gleam,<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">Each one a pulse that dances through the day,<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">The first, a roll that moves like a dream,<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">The second sighs with a tender sway.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">The double R's in \"strawberry\" align,<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">Creating music rich with fruit\u2019s delight,<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">Their rhythm sweet, a verse that seems to shine,<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">A harmony that warms the heart\u2019s twilight.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">O \"strawberry,\" your beauty so profound,<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"color: #000080;\">In every R, a melody is 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