{"id":63354,"date":"2024-04-07T12:10:56","date_gmt":"2024-04-07T17:10:56","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=63354"},"modified":"2024-04-08T22:41:57","modified_gmt":"2024-04-09T03:41:57","slug":"still-more-mongolic","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=63354","title":{"rendered":"Still more Mongolic"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\"><p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Mogholi is a fascinating language &#8211; Mongolic spoken in Afghanistan with strong Perso-Arabic influences. It was already in decline in the 1960s and we don&#39;t know if\/how many speakers there are left now<br>Pics: A poem (a qa\u1e63\u012bda) in original script, transcription and translation <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/9Mrct9DaAI\">pic.twitter.com\/9Mrct9DaAI<\/a><\/p>&mdash; Egas Moniz-Bandeira \u1821\u1864\u1820\u1830 \u182e\u1823\u1828\u1822\u1830 \u182a\u1820\u1828\u1869\u180b\u1820\u1836\u1822\u1837\u1820 (@egasmb) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/egasmb\/status\/1776672493127761986?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">April 6, 2024<\/a><\/blockquote> <script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\r\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\"><b>Moghol<\/b> (or <b>Mogholi<\/b>; <a title=\"Dari\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Dari\">Dari<\/a>: <span class=\"Nastaliq\" dir=\"rtl\" title=\"Nastaliq\">\u0645\u064f\u063a\u064f\u0644\u06cc<\/span>) is a critically endangered or possibly extinct <a title=\"Mongolic languages\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Mongolic_languages\">Mongolic language<\/a> spoken in the province of <a title=\"Herat Province\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Herat_Province\">Herat<\/a>, <a title=\"Afghanistan\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Afghanistan\">Afghanistan<\/a>, in the villages of <a title=\"Kundur, Afghanistan\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Kundur,_Afghanistan\">Kundur<\/a> and <a title=\"Karez-i-Mulla\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Karez-i-Mulla\">Karez-i-Mulla<\/a>. The speakers were the <a title=\"Moghol people\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Moghol_people\">Moghol people<\/a>, who numbered 2,000 members in the 1970s. They descend from the remnants of <a title=\"Genghis Khan\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Genghis_Khan\">Genghis Khan<\/a>'s Mongol army stationed in Afghanistan in the 13th century.<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">In the 1970s, when the German scholar Michael Weiers did fieldwork on the language, few people spoke it, most knew it passively and most were older than 40. It is unknown if there are still speakers of the language.<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">The language has been strongly influenced by <a title=\"Persian language\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Persian_language\">Persian<\/a> in its phonology, morphology and syntax, causing Weiers to state that it has the appearance of a \"true Inner Asian <a title=\"Creole language\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Creole_language\">creole language<\/a>\".<\/p>\r\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">(<a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Moghol_language\">Wikipedia<\/a>)<\/p>\r\n<p>Moghol's grammar, phonology, and script have all been heavily influenced by Persian, but at least its numerals can be traced back to Proto-Mongolic (Janhunen (2003):<\/p>\r\n<table class=\"wikitable sortable jquery-tablesorter\">\r\n<thead>\r\n<tr>\r\n<th class=\"headerSort\" tabindex=\"0\" title=\"Sort ascending\" role=\"columnheader button\">English gloss<\/th>\r\n<th class=\"headerSort\" tabindex=\"0\" title=\"Sort ascending\" role=\"columnheader button\">Moghol<sup id=\"cite_ref-Weiers_3-7\" class=\"reference\"><\/sup><\/th>\r\n<th class=\"headerSort\" tabindex=\"0\" title=\"Sort ascending\" role=\"columnheader button\"><a title=\"Proto-Mongolic language\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Proto-Mongolic_language\">Proto-Mongolic<\/a><sup id=\"cite_ref-6\" class=\"reference\"><\/sup><\/th>\r\n<th class=\"headerSort\" tabindex=\"0\" title=\"Sort ascending\" role=\"columnheader button\"><a title=\"Mongolian language\" href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Mongolian_language\">Modern Mongolian<\/a><\/th>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<\/thead>\r\n<tbody>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td>1<\/td>\r\n<td>one<\/td>\r\n<td>nikah ~ nika\/n<\/td>\r\n<td>*nike\/n<\/td>\r\n<td>neg<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td>2<\/td>\r\n<td>two<\/td>\r\n<td>qey\u00e5r ~ qiar<\/td>\r\n<td>*koxar ~ *koyar<\/td>\r\n<td>khoyor<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td>3<\/td>\r\n<td>three<\/td>\r\n<td>ghorb\u00e5n ~ qurban<\/td>\r\n<td>*gurba\/n<\/td>\r\n<td>gurav<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td>4<\/td>\r\n<td>four<\/td>\r\n<td>dorb\u00e5n ~ durba\/n<\/td>\r\n<td>*d\u00f6rbe\/n<\/td>\r\n<td>d\u00f6r\u00f6v<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td>5<\/td>\r\n<td>five<\/td>\r\n<td>t\u00e5bun ~ tabun<\/td>\r\n<td>*tabu\/n<\/td>\r\n<td>tav<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td>6<\/td>\r\n<td>six<\/td>\r\n<td>\u00e5sun ~ essun ~ jurghan ~ shish<\/td>\r\n<td>*jirguxa\/n<\/td>\r\n<td>zurgaa<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td>7<\/td>\r\n<td>seven<\/td>\r\n<td>d\u00e5l\u00e5n ~ h\u00faft<\/td>\r\n<td>*doluxa\/n<\/td>\r\n<td>doloo<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td>8<\/td>\r\n<td>eight<\/td>\r\n<td>s\u00e5l\u00e5n ~ h\u00fashtu<\/td>\r\n<td>*na(y)ima\/n<\/td>\r\n<td>naym<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td>9<\/td>\r\n<td>nine<\/td>\r\n<td>t\u00e5s\u00e5n ~ no<\/td>\r\n<td>*yers\u00fc\/n<\/td>\r\n<td>y\u00f6s<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<tr>\r\n<td>10<\/td>\r\n<td>ten<\/td>\r\n<td>arb\u00e5n ~ arban ~ d\u00e1<\/td>\r\n<td>*xarba\/n<\/td>\r\n<\/tr>\r\n<\/tbody>\r\n<\/table>\r\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n<p><b>Selected readings<\/b><\/p>\r\n<ul>\r\n<li>\"<a title=\"Permanent link to Kalmyk-German glossary\" href=\"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=63327\" rel=\"bookmark\">Kalmyk-German glossary<\/a>\" (4\/5\/24)<\/li>\r\n<li>\"<a title=\"Permanent link to The Altaic Hypothesis revisited\" href=\"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=49546\" rel=\"bookmark\">The Altaic Hypothesis revisited<\/a>\" (12\/10\/20)<\/li>\r\n<li>\"<a title=\"Permanent link to More on Mongolian and Kalmyk Studies\" href=\"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=63346\" rel=\"bookmark\">More on Mongolian and Kalmyk Studies<\/a>\" (4\/6\/24)<\/li>\r\n<\/ul>\r\n<p>[Thanks to Geoff Wade]<\/p>\r\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Mogholi is a fascinating language &#8211; Mongolic spoken in Afghanistan with strong Perso-Arabic influences. It was already in decline in the 1960s and we don&#39;t know if\/how many speakers there are left nowPics: A poem (a qa\u1e63\u012bda) in original script, transcription and translation pic.twitter.com\/9Mrct9DaAI &mdash; Egas Moniz-Bandeira \u1821\u1864\u1820\u1830 \u182e\u1823\u1828\u1822\u1830 \u182a\u1820\u1828\u1869\u180b\u1820\u1836\u1822\u1837\u1820 (@egasmb) April 6, 2024<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":13,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_exactmetrics_skip_tracking":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_active":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_note":"","_exactmetrics_sitenote_category":0,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[194,242,83,199,24,117,79],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-63354","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-borrowing","category-creoles-and-pidgins","category-endangered-languages","category-grammar","category-phonetics-and-phonology","category-pronunciation","category-writing"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/63354","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/13"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=63354"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/63354\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":63373,"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/63354\/revisions\/63373"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=63354"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=63354"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=63354"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}