{"id":55313,"date":"2022-07-17T20:32:10","date_gmt":"2022-07-18T01:32:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=55313"},"modified":"2022-07-17T20:32:10","modified_gmt":"2022-07-18T01:32:10","slug":"chinatown-without-chinese","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=55313","title":{"rendered":"Chinatown without Chinese"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Diana Zhang was in Lima, Peru last week, and this is what she saw:<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\"><a href=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/~bgzimmer\/sanjoylao.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" title=\"Click to embiggen\" src=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/~bgzimmer\/sanjoylao.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" \/><\/a><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Diana comments:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 40px;\">This is is what I found in Lima, Peru Chinatown! See this restaurant\u2019s name and its romanization: \u5c71\u6d77\u697c (San Joy Lao). Since in Spanish \u2014 different from English \u2014 \u201cj\u201d is pronounced like \/h\/ (think of San Jose and Don Juan), therefore \u201cJoy\u201d is used to represent the sound \u201choy\u201d, which corresponds to \u6d77 in Mandarin or Cantonese. :) I\u2019m simply amazed at the localization of romanization methods, which adapts to different languages and their spelling \/ pronunciation rules at different places, such as Peru that speaks Spanish!<\/p>\n<p>Not only was the Chinese signage in Lima's Chinatown limited, Diana said she didn't see any Chinese people there!<\/p>\n<p><b>Selected readings<\/b><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>\"<a title=\"Permanent link to Bilingual\n        Spanish-Chinese street signs\" href=\"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=27579\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"bookmark noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p%3D27579&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1657997883280000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0irs3Jm03CAc-3xqSwy2q7\">Bilingual Spanish-Chinese street signs<\/a>\" (8\/21\/16)<\/li>\n<li>\"<a title=\"Permanent link to Local toponymic\n        pronunciations in northwestern Ohio and northern Indiana\" href=\"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=55151\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"bookmark noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p%3D55151&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1657997883280000&amp;usg=AOvVaw2JCQz9wXMX7QsgESCqSo8p\">Local toponymic pronunciations in northwestern Ohio and northern Indiana<\/a>\" (7\/4\/22)<\/li>\n<li>\"<a title=\"Permanent link to Prehistoric notation\n        systems in Peru, with Chinese parallels\" href=\"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=50819\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"bookmark noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p%3D50819&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1657997883280000&amp;usg=AOvVaw0Af15Z66J-Ey9nUYQtFRGw\">Prehistoric notation systems in Peru, with Chinese parallels<\/a>\" (4\/17\/21)<\/li>\n<li>\"<a title=\"Permanent link to Multilingualism in\n        Philadelphia's Chinatown\" href=\"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=45367\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"bookmark noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p%3D45367&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1657997883280000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3p3ddW7utCksiQz2L3pvuI\">Multilingualism in Philadelphia's Chinatown<\/a>\" (12\/14\/19)<\/li>\n<li>\"<a title=\"Permanent link to Taishan and Chinatown\" href=\"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=53457\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"bookmark noopener\" data-saferedirecturl=\"https:\/\/www.google.com\/url?q=https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p%3D53457&amp;source=gmail&amp;ust=1657997883280000&amp;usg=AOvVaw3PkfQrHaKrC2Og9x-bM7l5\">Taishan and Chinatown<\/a>\" (2\/5\/22)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Diana Zhang was in Lima, Peru last week, and this is what she 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