{"id":42153,"date":"2019-03-17T11:52:39","date_gmt":"2019-03-17T16:52:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=42153"},"modified":"2019-03-17T11:52:39","modified_gmt":"2019-03-17T16:52:39","slug":"new-twist-on-a-classic-misnegation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=42153","title":{"rendered":"New twist on a classic misnegation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Jared Dubin, \"<a href=\"https:\/\/fivethirtyeight.com\/features\/the-nbas-other-offensive-revolution-never-turning-the-ball-over\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">The NBA\u2019s Other Offensive Revolution: Never Turning The Ball Over<\/a>\", FiveThirtyEight 3\/14\/2018 <em>[emphasis added]<\/em>:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">We\u2019re in a golden age for NBA offense. Teams are scoring 110.1 points per 100 possessions during the 2018-19 season, according to Basketball-Reference.com \u2014 a full 1.3 points per 100 possessions more than the previous high of 108.8, which was set two years ago.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">This is largely \u2014 and rightly \u2014 credited to the boom in 3-point attempts. [&#8230;]<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">But while the genesis of the other offensive changes can be neatly traced, the decline in turnovers is a bit more puzzling. [&#8230;]<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Regardless of why, <strong>the impact of turnovers cannot be undersold.<\/strong> [&#8230;] You can\u2019t score if you don\u2019t have the ball.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Our <a href=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=1925\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">interminable catalog of misnegations<\/a> has many entries dealing with analogous cases, e.g.\u00a0\"<a href=\"http:\/\/itre.cis.upenn.edu\/~myl\/languagelog\/archives\/000856.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">We cannot\/must not understate\/overstate<\/a>\",\u00a0\"<a href=\"http:\/\/itre.cis.upenn.edu\/~myl\/languagelog\/archives\/001101.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Overstating understatement<\/a>\",\u00a0\"<a href=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=813\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">'Cannot underestimate' = 'must not underestimate'<\/a>\",\u00a0\"<a href=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=4001\">\u2026not understating the threat<\/a>\",\u00a0\"<a href=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=4187\">(Not) Underestimating the Irish Famine<\/a>\",\u00a0\"<a href=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=4407\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Overestimating, underestimating, whatever<\/a>\",\u00a0\"<a href=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=10800\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">'Impossible to understate' again<\/a>\", \"<a href=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=11177\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">'Hard to understate'<\/a>\", etc. etc.<\/p>\n<p>For a simple explanation from first principles, see \"<a href=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=11519\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">The Estimation Game<\/a>\", 4\/3\/2014.<\/p>\n<p>I think this is the first example we've catalogued that involves over-\/under-selling rather than stating, estimating, emphasizing, and so on. However, it's far from the only example Out There.\u00a0 Here are the other <a href=\"https:\/\/news.google.com\/search?q=%22cannot%20be%20undersold%22&amp;hl=en-US&amp;gl=US&amp;ceid=US%3Aen\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">five top examples of \"cannot be undersold\"<\/a> from the current Google New index &#8212; and note that every one of them is upside-down:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">[<a href=\"https:\/\/247sports.com\/nfl\/detroit-lions\/Article\/Trey-Flowers-Lions-addition-a-home-run-129965865\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">link<\/a>] After the Flowers news was revealed, Renners called the deal a home run in a piece, and said the impact that it makes for the defense <strong>cannot be undersold<\/strong>.<br \/>\n[<a href=\"https:\/\/djbooth.net\/features\/2019-03-04-solange-when-i-get-home-blackness-sacred-album-review\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">link<\/a>] Solange\u2019s ability to elevate southern black aesthetics as high art, illuminate the oft-forgotten work of DJ Screw, and build space that allows for black femininity to become an entryway to spirituality <strong>cannot be undersold<\/strong>.<br \/>\n[<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbr.com\/the-dragon-prince-redeems-netflix-lgbt-failures\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">link<\/a>] And while that's certainly a worthwhile debate to have, the importance of that moment, a kiss shared between two proud warriors in love with each other, <strong>cannot be undersold<\/strong>.<br \/>\n[<a href=\"https:\/\/musketfire.com\/2018\/09\/04\/new-england-patriots-53-man-roster-cut-down-analysis\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">link<\/a>] He knows this offense inside-out and that <strong>cannot be undersold<\/strong>.<br \/>\n[<a href=\"https:\/\/steelerswire.usatoday.com\/2018\/11\/15\/no-quarterback-is-protected-better-than-ben-roethlisberger\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">link<\/a>] It <strong>cannot be undersold<\/strong> just how good the Pittsburgh Steelers offensive line has been this season.<\/p>\n<p>So we need to repeat a question asked many times before: if (almost) everyone (almost) always uses a turn of phrase \"wrong\", doesn't that make their usage actually right? After all, we linguists believe <a href=\"http:\/\/www.perseus.tufts.edu\/hopper\/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.02.0064:card=44&amp;highlight=norma+loquendi%2C\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">with Horace<\/a> that language changes \"si volet usus \/ quem penes arbitrium est et ius et norma loquendi\" (\"if it be the will of custom, in the power of whose judgment is the law and the standard of language\"), right?<\/p>\n<p>I don't think so. Norma loquendi certainly governs word meaning and morphosyntax, which are basically matters of cultural convention. Things are arguably different in compositional semantics, which is the logical combination of simpler meanings to form more complex ones.<\/p>\n<p>Of course, I've <a href=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=21170\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">argued elsewhere<\/a> that \"could care less\" is an idiom, and therefore OK.\u00a0 So why not treat \"cannot be under(estimated\/stated\/sold\/etc.)\" the same way? For me, it just doesn't feel right to do that &#8212; but maybe I'm being a hypocrite.<\/p>\n<p>The obligatory screenshot:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/myl\/CannotBeUndersold.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" title=\"Click to embiggen\" src=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/myl\/CannotBeUndersold.png\" width=\"490\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>[h\/t Rick Rubenstein]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jared Dubin, \"The NBA\u2019s Other Offensive Revolution: Never Turning The Ball Over\", FiveThirtyEight 3\/14\/2018 [emphasis added]: We\u2019re in a golden age for NBA offense. Teams are scoring 110.1 points per 100 possessions during the 2018-19 season, according to Basketball-Reference.com \u2014 a full 1.3 points per 100 possessions more than the previous high of 108.8, which [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_exactmetrics_skip_tracking":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_active":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_note":"","_exactmetrics_sitenote_category":0,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[273],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-42153","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-misnegation"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42153","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=42153"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42153\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":42159,"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/42153\/revisions\/42159"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=42153"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=42153"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=42153"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}