{"id":4186,"date":"2012-09-15T17:59:09","date_gmt":"2012-09-15T22:59:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=4186"},"modified":"2012-09-15T18:56:04","modified_gmt":"2012-09-15T23:56:04","slug":"ask-llog-developer-requests-to-assume-role","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=4186","title":{"rendered":"Ask LLOG: \"Developer requests to assume role\"?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Reader MP writes:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">A question came up at work about the syntax of something that struck some of us as odd. <\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">The context is fairly technical \u2013 it\u2019s one of a series of captions for a diagram. The full set of captions is (approximately) this:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">1. System admin creates role<br \/>\n2. System admin sets role permissions<br \/>\n<strong> 3. Developer requests to assume role<\/strong><br \/>\n4. [ProductX] returns role session credentials<br \/>\n5. Developer updates folder using role credentials<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">In this context,<em> role, permissions, credentials,<\/em> and even <em>assume<\/em> all have precise technical meanings. The oddity is in the syntax of \u201crequests to assume.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">I\u2019ve run it by editors (a lot of them), and although many people agree that that it sounds odd, no one has been able to pin down exactly why. In fact, a couple of people have come up with examples that would seem to support the pattern of request + infinitive:<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">AHD5 apparently has an example  \u201c\u2026 requested to see the evidence firsthand\u201d<br \/>\nMW unabridged has an example \u201c\u2026 requests to be excused from the ungrateful task\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Any thoughts or insights? <\/span><\/p>\n<p>My suggestion: It's a matter of probability.<\/p>\n<p>The wordform <em>requests <\/em>occurs 6,798 times in the COCA corpus. In a random sample of 100 that I checked, 94% were nouns. With an infinitival complement, the proportion of nominal uses is apparently even higher. There are 653 instances of the sequence <em>requests to<\/em>, and in a random sample of 100, 100 of the <em>requests<\/em> were nouns rather than verbs. A quick scan over all 653 turned up only two verbal uses:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Ironically, in assuming the disadvantaged position of a woman, the narrator astutely requests to be read as a cultural authority.<br \/>\n<\/span><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Supervisor Tom Ammiano requests to be listed as a co-sponsor, and says, \"[&#8230;]\"<\/span><\/p>\n<p>In these two cases, the interpretation of requests as a noun is impossible or at least strongly disfavored, e.g. by the preceding adverb in \"astutely requests\".<\/p>\n<p>It's common to modify the noun <em>requests<\/em> in this construction with another noun denoting the requester, as in these examples from COCA:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #800000;\">Nonsmoker requests to smokers to refrain from smoking are often stressful, [&#8230;]<br \/>\nMarch refused police requests to interview him or his children.<br \/>\nIt would also make junk e-mailers comply with all consumer requests to be removed from their lists.<br \/>\nHe said it has also refused agency requests to separate operations at Natanz, [&#8230;]<\/span><\/p>\n<p>So perhaps the pattern <em>Developer requests to [&#8230;] <\/em>primes readers strongly to expect that <em>requests<\/em> will be a plural noun, while the rest of the context requires them to interpret it as a 3rd-person singular present verb form.<\/p>\n<p>I don't have a lot of confidence that this explanation is correct, but it covers the ground.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Reader MP writes: A question came up at work about the syntax of something that struck some of us as odd. The context is fairly technical \u2013 it\u2019s one of a series of captions for a diagram. The full set of captions is (approximately) this: 1. System admin creates role 2. 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