{"id":3955,"date":"2012-05-13T11:00:02","date_gmt":"2012-05-13T16:00:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=3955"},"modified":"2012-05-14T08:41:08","modified_gmt":"2012-05-14T13:41:08","slug":"thurber-on-whom","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=3955","title":{"rendered":"Thurber on \"Who and Whom\""},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In her <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/arts\/critics\/books\/2012\/05\/14\/120514crbo_books_acocella?currentPage=all\">review<\/a> of Henry Hitchings' The Language Wars: A History of Proper English, Joan Acocella <a href=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=3952\">expressed some annoyance<\/a> that Hitchings could dare to suggest \"that the \u201cwho\u201d\/\u201cwhom\u201d distinction may be on its way out\". As evidence that this distinction was already in some difficulty almost 20 years before Ms. Acocella was born, I reprint below James Thurber's thoughts on \"Who and Whom\", which ran under the title \"Our Own Modern English Usage: After Reading a Book on the Subject\", in <em>The New Yorker<\/em>'s issue of January 5, 1929.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">The number of people who use \"whom\" and \"who\" wrongly is appalling. The problem is a difficult one and it is complicated by the importance of tone, or taste. Take the common expression, \"Whom are you, anyways?\" That is of course, strictly speaking, correct &#8211; and yet how formal, how stilted! The usage to be preferred in ordinary speech and writing is \"Who are you, anyways?\" \"Whom\" should be used in the nominative case only when a note of dignity or austerity is desired. For example, if a writer is dealing with a meeting of, say, the British Cabinet, it would be better to have the Premier greet a new arrival, such as an under-secretary, with a \"Whom are you, anyways?\" rather than a \"Who are you, anyways?\" &#8211; always granted that the Premier is sincerely unaware of the man's identity. To address a person one knows by a \"Whom are you?\" is a mark either of incredible lapse of memory or inexcusable arrogance. \"How are you?\" is a much kindlier salutation.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">The Buried Whom, as it is called, forms a special problem. That is where the word occurs deep in a sentence. For a ready example, take the common expression: \"He did not know whether he knew her or not because he had not heard whom the other had said she was until too late to see her.\" The simplest way out of this is to abandon the \"whom\" altogether and substitute \"where\" (a reading of the sentence that way will show how much better it is). Unfortunately, it is only in rare cases that \"where\" can be used in place of \"whom.\" Nothing could be more flagrantly bad, for instance, than to say \"Where are you?\" in demanding a person's identity. The only conceivable answer is \"Here I am,\" which would give no hint at all as to whom the person was. Thus the conversation, or piece of writing, would, from being built upon a false foundation, fall of its own weight.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">A common rule for determining whether \"who\" or \"whom\" is right is to substitute \"she\" for \"who,\" and \"her\" for \"whom,\" and see which sounds the better. Take the sentence, \"He met a woman who they said was an actress.\" Now if \"who\" is correct then \"she\" can be used in its place. Let us try it. \"He met a woman she they said was an actress.\" That instantly rings false. It can't be right. Hence the proper usage is \"whom.\"<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">In certain cases grammatical correctness must often be subordinated to a consideration of taste. For instance, suppose that the same person had met a man whom they said was a street cleaner. The word \"whom\" is too austere to use in connection with a lowly worker, like a street-cleaner, and its use in this form is known as False Administration or Pathetic Fallacy.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">You might say: \"There is, then, no hard and fast rule?\" (\"was then\" would be better, since \"then\" refers to what is past). You might better say (or have said): \"There was then (or is now) no hard and fast rule?\" Only this, that it is better to use \"whom\" when in doubt, and even better to re-word the statement, and leave out all the relative pronouns, except ad, ante, con, in , inter, ob, post, prae, pro, sub, and super.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>According to Thomas Fensch, <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=0k9h8Mi0nfYC&amp;lpg=PA145&amp;vq=%22Modern%20English%20Usage%22&amp;dq=Thurber%20%22Modern%20English%20Usage%22&amp;pg=PA145#v=snippet&amp;q=%22Ladies'%20and%20Gentleman's%20Guide%22&amp;f=false\"><em>The Man Who Was Walter Mitty: The Life and Work of James Thurbe<\/em>r<\/a>, 2001 (p. 145), Thurber published nine of these pieces on usage: \"Who and Whom\"; \"Which\"; \"The Split Infinitive\"; \"Only and One\"; \"Whether\"; \"The Subjunctive Mood\"; \"Exclamation Points and Colons\"; \"The Perfect Infinitive\"; and \"Adverbian Advice\". \u00a0Unfortunately,\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.newyorker.com\/archive\"><em>The New Yorker<\/em>'s on-line archive<\/a> apparently only indexes \"abstracts\", so that the only way to find the other eight is to browse every issue in the 1928-1930 time period. This is interesting but time-consuming &#8212; so I invited commenters with subscriptions (and thus archive access) to offer more detailed citations.<\/p>\n<p>Update &#8212; the full set of nine is reprinted <a href=\"http:\/\/downwithtyranny.blogspot.com\/2010\/12\/thurber-tonight-series-to-date.html\">here<\/a>, as they appeared in <em>The Owl in the Attic<\/em> (1931). And in the comments, Dave Lull <a href=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=3955#comment-195190\">cites a bibliography<\/a> that gives the New Yorker issues \u00a0in which they were originally published.<\/p>\n<p>(More \"<a href=\"http:\/\/itre.cis.upenn.edu\/~myl\/languagelog\/archives\/000779.html\">Whom Humor<\/a>\" &#8230; and fans of grammatical humor shouldn't miss Geoff Pullum's \"<a href=\"http:\/\/itre.cis.upenn.edu\/~myl\/languagelog\/archives\/001437.html\">The coming death of <em>whom<\/em>: Photo evidence<\/a>\", 9\/10\/2004.)<\/p>\n<p>[For those who didn't learn Latin in an old-fashioned way, I'll note that \"ad, ante, con, in, inter, ob, post, prae, pro, sub, and super\" is a list that schoolchildren used to be required to memorize, because verbs compounded with these prepositions generally govern the dative case. Thurber has left off \"&#8230; and sometimes circum\", but he seems to have managed to make his way in the world nevertheless.]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In her review of Henry Hitchings' The Language Wars: A History of Proper English, Joan Acocella expressed some annoyance that Hitchings could dare to suggest \"that the \u201cwho\u201d\/\u201cwhom\u201d distinction may be on its way out\". As evidence that this distinction was already in some difficulty almost 20 years before Ms. Acocella was born, I reprint [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_exactmetrics_skip_tracking":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_active":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_note":"","_exactmetrics_sitenote_category":0,"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[23],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-3955","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-humor"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3955","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=3955"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3955\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=3955"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=3955"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=3955"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}