{"id":14807,"date":"2014-09-29T13:33:49","date_gmt":"2014-09-29T18:33:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=14807"},"modified":"2014-09-29T17:36:15","modified_gmt":"2014-09-29T22:36:15","slug":"heart-mind","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=14807","title":{"rendered":"Heart-mind"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is another one of those posts that I wanted to write long ago (actually almost a year ago), but it got lost in the shuffle until now, when I found it going through my old drafts.<\/p>\n<p>It was prompted by an article that Christine Gross-Loh wrote for The Atlantic (October 8, 2013) titled \"<a href=\"http:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/education\/archive\/2013\/10\/why-are-hundreds-of-harvard-students-studying-ancient-chinese-philosophy\/280356\/\">Why Are Hundreds of Harvard Students Studying Ancient Chinese Philosophy?<\/a>\u00a0 The professor who teaches Classical Chinese Ethical and Political Theory claims, 'This course will change your life.'\"<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Michael Puett, the professor who is featured in the article, is a friend of mine.\u00a0 He is a mesmerizing speaker; audiences are glued to his every syllable and glance.\u00a0 If his course is changing students' lives, how so?\u00a0 For the better?\u00a0 Has Michael Puett become a guru?\u00a0 A missionary?\u00a0 Something more than a mere college professor of ancient Chinese thought?\u00a0 Is ancient Chinese thought, in and of itself, so powerful that it can transform people who are exposed to it?\u00a0 Or does it have such a profound effect chiefly because of the skillful spin that Professor Puett puts upon it?<\/p>\n<p>I do not intend to answer any or all of these questions, but leave them to Language Log readers who are familiar with ancient Chinese thought or who may have chanced to hear a lecture by Professor Puett.\u00a0 Rather, I would like to concentrate on a problem raised in this key sentence from the section of the article titled \"Decisions are made from the heart\":<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Americans tend to believe that humans are rational creatures who make decisions logically, using our brains. But in Chinese, the word for \"mind\" and \"heart\" are the same.<\/p>\n<p>What can we say about this identification of \"heart\" and \"mind\" (x\u012bn \u5fc3)?\u00a0 In what way is true?\u00a0 In what way is it misleading?<\/p>\n<p>Because of uncertainty over how to translate x\u012bn \u5fc3, whether as \"heart\" or \"mind\", some scholars have taken to rendering it as \"heart-mind\" or \"heart \/ mind\", while others feel that it should be translated as \"heart\" or as \"mind\" depending upon the context.\u00a0 It becomes problematic when one insists on translating it either as \"heart\" or as \"mind\" in all cases.<\/p>\n<p>I asked a number of specialists in Chinese philosophy and related fields what they thought about this conundrum of the x\u012bn \u5fc3.\u00a0 All explanatory and amplificatory notes within square brackets have been added by VHM.<\/p>\n<p>Steve Angle:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I learned at my teacher's knee that, indeed, xin unifies cognitive and conative.<\/p>\n<p>Scott Barnwell<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8230;xin is the organ of thought and feeling. It seems to be used that way. The heart signific begins to appear in jinwen [bronze] script (with De \u5fb7 [\"virtue\"] being one of the first) to identify a number of concepts related to the \u201cinner life.\u201d On a related note, I\u2019ve often wondered about the word si \u601d [\"think\"]: that is apparently a head\/brain along with the heart. When did they realize we think with our brains? [VHM: we shall take up this question below]<\/p>\n<p>Bryan Van Norden<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I've always thought of XIN, in its earliest philosophical use, as straddling the supposed dichotomy between emotion and cognition that became enshrined in post-Enlightenment Western thought. \u00a0 So it is something like the \"heart,\" as the seat of the emotions and desires, and something like the \"mind,\" as the faculty of perception and cognition.<\/p>\n<p>Edward Slingerland<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">My current primary work in progress is an academic monograph with the working title\u00a0<em>Body and Mind in Early China: Beyond the Myth of Holism,\u00a0<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/eslingerland.arts.ubc.ca\/files\/2013\/01\/jaar_bodymind.pdf\">an article-length version of which<\/a> was recently published in the <em>Journal of the American Academy of Religion<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">\"Body and Mind in Early China: An Integrated Humanities-Science Approach,\" Journal of the American Academy of Religion (2013), pp.1\u201350. [<a href=\"eslingerland.arts.ubc.ca\/files\/2013\/01\/jaar_bodymind.pdf\">pdf<\/a>]<\/p>\n<p>Arif Dirlik:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Did they really think they were thinking with their xins and xin'ing with their minds! If it was such a reductionist equation, why would they make such a fuss over <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Wang_Yangming\">Wang Yangming<\/a> vs. <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Zhu_Xi\">Zhu Xi<\/a>?\u00a0 At least your friend seems to be pushing <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Zhuang_Zhou\">Zhuangzi<\/a> rather than old <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Confucius\">Kongzi<\/a>!<\/p>\n<p>John Lagerwey<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">The word <em>xin<\/em>, heart: as I am preparing the next set of volumes on Chinese religion (Song-Yuan), I am confronted with the frequently encountered but really quite offputting heart-and-mind translation of this apparently simple word. The Buddhologists, without hesitation, translate \"mind\", and the Daoxue people get all tangled up with the heart\/mind problem. I wrote to them to point out that, in the Bible, too, so far as I know, the heart is the thinking-and-emoting organ, but no translator of the Bible throws heart\/mind at us. It says \"heart\", so they translate \"heart\"<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I guess that's why the Buddhologists opt for \"mind\" even when it says guanxin \"observe the heart\". And of course Zhuangzi already said clearly that the heart was the lord of the body, so there can be no doubt that, for the Chinese, in Chinese, xin means heart and it does all the jobs we associate with cognition. This is why, in the end, the Chinese prefer, epistemologically speaking, intuition and synthesis to analytic logic and deductive thinking.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I usually avoid \"heart-mind\" because I think it's too clunky and not accurate in most instances.\u00a0 When the text says xin, I normally go for \"heart\" because that's what it is.\u00a0 Only when the text is talking about mental processes do I use \"mind\".<\/p>\n<p>Robert Eno, writing informally with spontaneity unencumbered by responsibility:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8230;I\u2019ve also been reading neuroscience for the past few years to look for non-facile ways to relate Confucian ideas to features of the human brain\/body, so I\u2019m sympathetic to some of the sort of shopworn observations the <em>Atlantic<\/em> article points towards on that front.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I think the heart\/mind clich\u00e9 is unproblematic if you point out to students that English uses of those terms often conflate cognitive and affective features as well, although our theories of the two lexical items distinguish them (there\u2019s nothing wrong with saying, \u201cHer mind quickly grasped the horror of the situation,\u201d meaning that she was struck emotionally and not that she reasoned it out; we say it because \u201cgrasp\u201d is a powerful word that has been built into the rhetoric of cognition). Don Munro analyzed the cluster of terms used for \u201cknow\u201d in Classical and Mandarin Chinese and concluded that four dimensions are conflated (he was most interested in evidence that use of the terms usually denoted dimensions of approval and dispositions to act in accordance) \u2013 something I think is also often true of English equivalents in use, though not in lexical theory, and something that I think points to much more interesting features of Chinese thought.\u00a0 See\u00a0See <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books\/about\/The_Concept_of_Man_in_Contemporary_China.html?id=O9zkAAAAMAAJ\"><em>The Concept of Man in Contemporary China<\/em><\/a>. Chapter 2 is where Munro comes up with his analysis of \u201cclustering\u201d in the verb \u77e5 [\"know\"].<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">But while I really don\u2019t think the lexical issue of <em>xin<\/em> is of particular interest (I used to teach it as a point students would encounter and that I\u2019d be flagging routinely in translations, but that I wasn\u2019t going to spend time on), the clich\u00e9 is useful for highlighting the different epistemological centers of \u201cphilosophy\u201d in early Chinese and European contexts.<\/p>\n<p>Peng Hsiao-yen<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">The most noteworthy debate on heart (feeling) and mind (reason) started in Rousseau's time, during the European Enlightenment. David Hume says, \"Reason is, and ought only to be the slave of the passions.\" Chinese philosophy, which teaches the unification of feeling and reason, and subject and object, has been used by contemporary European philosophers to critique Western philosophy since Descartes's time that has led to the separation of heart and mind, subject and object.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Think about the Frankfurt school philosophers such as Adorno, who criticized Enlightenment rational thinking. What about Foucault's thinking about the \"unthought\" (non-pens\u00e9e), or Deleuze's affect theory?<\/p>\n<p>I nudged another group of specialists on language and thought to consider when the Chinese started to conceive of the xin as an organ of thought.\u00a0 And when they began to think of \"thought\" at all.<\/p>\n<p>Scott Cook:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I guess it depends on what you mean by \"thought,\" exactly.\u00a0 But certainly at least by the time of <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Mencius\">Meng Zi [Mencius]<\/a>, no?<\/p>\n<p>Christoph Harbsmeier<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Quite early, I should say. Very early. But they were so very late to find a term that distinguishes the intellectual\/reflexive part from the emotional\/attitudinal part of the \"thinking process, I should say&#8230;.<\/p>\n<p>Matt Anderson<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">&#8230;As to x\u012bn as an organ of thought\u2026 \u00a0that's a hard question. \u00a0The graph is used in OBI [<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Oracle_bone_script\">oracle bone inscriptions<\/a>, the earliest stage of Chinese writing, ca. 1200 BC during the Shang dynasty], but it doesn't ever seem to write the word x\u012bn (in the sense of 'heart' or any derived meaning), so Shang inscriptions aren't very helpful.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">X\u012bn definitely means something like 'will' or 'aspiration' quite early (as well as 'heart' in its metaphorical sense), but it doesn't necessarily follow that it means 'an organ of thought' (though even Schuessler, in his early Zhou dictionary, defines it as \"heart, mind\" [VHM: more on this below]).<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">From the Pan Geng II \u76e4\u5e9a\u4e2d section of the<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Book_of_Documents\"> Shang shu<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">\u6c5d\u842c\u6c11\u4e43\u4e0d\u751f\u751f\uff0c\u66a8\u4e88\u4e00\u4eba\u7337\u540c\u5fc3 [R\u01d4 w\u00e0nm\u00edn n\u01cei b\u00f9 sh\u0113ngsh\u0113ng, j\u00ec y\u01d4 y\u012br\u00e9n y\u00f3u t\u00f3ngx\u012bn]<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">If you, the myriads of the people, do not attend to the perpetuation of your lives, and cherish one mind with me, the One man, in my plans\u2026 (Legge's translation)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">From the Pan Geng III \u76e4\u5e9a\u4e0b section [ibid.]:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">\u5f0f\u6577\u6c11\u5fb7\uff0c\u6c38\u80a9\u4e00\u5fc3 [Sh\u00ec f\u016b m\u00edn d\u00e9, y\u01d2ng ji\u0101n y\u012bx\u012bn]<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">Reverently display your virtue in behalf of the people. For ever maintain this one purpose in your hearts. (Legge's translation)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">From Qiao yan\u00a0\u5de7\u8a00, from the Xiao ya section of the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Classic_of_Poetry\">Classic of Odes<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">\u4ed6\u4eba\u6709\u5fc3\uff0c\u4e88\u5fd6\u5ea6\u4e4b\u3002[T\u0101r\u00e9n y\u01d2ux\u012bn, y\u01d4 c\u01d4ndu\u00f3 zh\u012b.]<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">What other men have in their minds \/\u00a0I can measure by reflection. (Legge's translation)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">From the Jin yu 4\u00a0\u6649\u8a9e\u56db section of the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Guoyu_%28book%29\">Guo yu\u00a0\u570b\u8a9e<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">\u540c\u59d3\u5247\u540c\u5fb7\uff0c\u540c\u5fb7\u5247\u540c\u5fc3\uff0c\u540c\u5fc3\u5247\u540c\u5fd7 [T\u00f3ngx\u00ecng z\u00e9 t\u00f3ng d\u00e9, t\u00f3ng d\u00e9 z\u00e9 t\u00f3ngx\u012bn, t\u00f3ngx\u012bn z\u00e9 t\u00f3ngzh\u00ec]<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">If they have the same surname then they have the same d\u00e9, if they have the same d\u00e9 then they have the same x\u012bn, if they have the same x\u012bn then they have the same will. (my quick rough translation)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">All of the above\u00a0<em>could<\/em>\u00a0mean 'organ of thought' (or an extended meaning related to thought or mind), but something like 'will' or 'aspirations' or 'heart' could be intended instead of something related to 'thought' in these cases.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">These examples are the ones in which it seemed most conceivable that x\u012bn meant something along the lines of 'mind'\u2014in the great majority of the examples I found, it very obviously did not mean anything like 'mind'. \u00a0But I agree that, even for those cases, something along the lines of 'will' fits better.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">By <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Mencius\">Mencius<\/a>, though, it does seem to have some connotations of 'thought':<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">From Gaozi I \u544a\u5b50\u4e0a [chapter of the Mencius]:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">\u5fc3\u4e4b\u5b98\u5247\u601d\uff0c\u601d\u5247\u5f97\u4e4b\uff0c\u4e0d\u601d\u5247\u4e0d\u5f97\u4e5f [X\u012bn zh\u012b gu\u0101n z\u00e9 s\u012b, s\u012b z\u00e9 d\u00e9 zh\u012b, b\u00f9 s\u012b z\u00e9 b\u00f9d\u00e9 y\u011b]<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">To the mind belongs the office of thinking. By thinking, it gets the right view of things; by neglecting to think, it fails to do this. (Legge's translation)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">It definitely meant 'brain' by the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Warring_States_period\">Warring States <\/a>at least, but I can't find any real connotation of 'thinking'\u2026.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">From \"Zhang Yi wei Qin po cong lianheng wei Yan wang\"\u00a0\u5f35\u5100\u70ba\u79e6\u7834\u5f9e\u9023\u6a6b\u8b02\u71d5\u738b from the Yan I \u71d5\u4e00 section of <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Zhan_Guo_Ce\">Zhanguo ce<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">\u5eda\u4eba\u9032\u659f\u7fb9\uff0c\u56e0\u53cd\u9b2d\u800c\u64ca\u4e4b\uff0c\u4ee3\u738b\u8166\u6d82\u5730 [Ch\u00fa r\u00e9n j\u00ecn zh\u0113n g\u0113ng, y\u012bn f\u01cen d\u00f2u \u00e9r j\u012b zh\u012b, d\u00e0i w\u00e1ng n\u01ceo t\u00fa d\u00ec]<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">The kitchen worker entered to pour the stew, and as he turned over the ladle and struck him, the Dai king's brains splashed on the ground.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">The <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Shuowen_Jiezi\">Shuo wen<\/a> defines it as the 'marrow (or essence) of the head', or something like that:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">\u5318\uff08\u8166\uff09\uff0c\u982d\u9ad3\u4e5f\u3002[n\u01ceo, t\u00f3usu\u01d0 y\u011b.\u00a0 This is clearly the physical brain, not the thinking brain.]<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">The Chunqiu yuan ming bao <a href=\"http:\/\/www.baike.com\/wiki\/%E6%98%A5%E7%A7%8B%E5%85%83%E5%91%BD%E8%8B%9E\">\u6625\u79cb\u5143\u547d\u82de<\/a> has the passage:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">\u4eba\u7cbe\u5728\u8166 [R\u00e9n j\u012bng z\u00e0i n\u01ceo]<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">The essence of the human is in the brain.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">But that still doesn't have anything to do with thought.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">In <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Lu_Ji_%28Shiheng%29\">Lu Ji's \u9678\u6a5f<\/a> \"Yu Changsha gu mu shu\" \u8207\u9577\u6c99\u9867\u6bcd\u66f8 from the Jin \u6649 dynasty, nao is interestingly connected with xin:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">\u75db\u5fc3\u62d4\u8166\uff0c\u6709\u5982\u5b54\u61f7 [T\u00f2ngx\u012bn b\u00e1 n\u01ceo, y\u01d2ur\u00fa k\u01d2ng hu\u00e1i; \"grieved at heart and vexed in brain, as though mindful of one's brother\" &#8212; the idea of \"mindful\" is not explicit in the text, but is only present through allusion]<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">and also, <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Han_Yu\">Han Yu <\/a>writes in \"Chaozhou cishi xie shang biao\"\u00a0\u6f6e\u5dde\u523a\u53f2\u8b1d\u4e0a\u8868:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">\u8056\u6069\u5b8f\u5927\uff0c\u5929\u5730\u83ab\u91cf\uff1b\u7834\u8166\u5233\u5fc3\uff0c\u8c48\u8db3\u7232\u8b1d\u3002[Sh\u00e8ng \u0113n h\u00f3ngd\u00e0, ti\u0101nd\u00ec m\u00f2 li\u00e0ng; p\u00f2 n\u01ceo k\u016b x\u012bn, q\u01d0 z\u00fa w\u00e8i xi\u00e8; \"the capaciousness of sagely (i.e., imperial) grace is beyond measure in heaven and earth; smashing my brain and ripping out my heart would be insufficient to convey my gratitude\"]<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">But again, that's only an indirect connection with thought.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">I haven't looked very hard, but the earliest example I can find (it's in <em>Hanyu da cidian<\/em>) that clearly links nao with thought is from <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Dream_of_the_Red_Chamber\">Honglou meng<\/a>, long, long after the arrival of Western learning:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 60px;\">\u6797\u59d1\u5a18\u662f\u500b\u6709\u5fc3\u8a08\u5152\u7684\uff1b\u81f3\u65bc\u5bf6\u7389\uff0c\u5446\u982d\u5446\u8166\uff0c\u4e0d\u907f\u5acc\u7591\u662f\u6709\u7684\u3002[L\u00edn g\u016bni\u00e1ng sh\u00ecg\u00e8 y\u01d2ux\u012bn j\u00ec er de; zh\u00ecy\u00fa B\u01ceoy\u00f9, d\u0101it\u00f3ud\u0101in\u01ceo, b\u00f9 b\u00ec xi\u00e1ny\u00ed sh\u00ec y\u01d2u de; \"Miss Lin is calculating, but Baoyu seems dull-witted and makes no attempt to avoid suspicion\"]<\/p>\n<p>What does the graph used to write x\u012bn (\"heart \/ mind\") represent?\u00a0 It has traditionally been thought that the old Chinese graph for \"heart\" (x\u012bn \u5fc3) <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wiktionary.org\/wiki\/%E5%BF%83\">depicts the physical organ<\/a>, with some authorities even claiming that it showed the atria and ventricles.\u00a0 I've always been suspicious of such explanations of the graph because I doubt that the people who devised and used this character over three millennia ago had sufficient anatomical knowledge to accurately delineate and describe the physical heart as a whole, much less details of its inner construction.<\/p>\n<p>On his \"<a href=\"http:\/\/languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu\/nll\/?p=2910\">Chinese Etymology<\/a>\" website, Richard Sears explains &#8212; with visual examples &#8212; <a href=\"http:\/\/www.chineseetymology.org\/CharacterEtymology.aspx?submitButton1=Etymology&amp;characterInput=%E5%BF%83\">the oracle bone form of the graph as depicting the human torso<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>While Sears' explanation may seem rather fanciful, it's as convincing to me as the notion that the oracle bone form of x\u012bn \u5fc3 is an anatomical drawing of the physical organ.<\/p>\n<p>When it comes to the etymology of the Sinitic root for x\u012bn, Axel Schuessler's research indicates that its earliest attestations already conveyed the meanings of both \"heart\" and \"mind\", while its apparent Tibeto-Burman cognates signified \"breath; life; soul; spirit; mind; thought\", and Mon-Khmer has a similar word meaning \"breath; heart; mind\".<\/p>\n<p>See:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>A Dictionary of Early Zhou Chinese<\/em>, p. 683ab<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>ABC Etymological Dictionary of Old Chinese<\/em>, p. 538<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Minimal Old Chinese and Later Han Chinese:\u00a0 A Companion to Grammata Serica Recensa<\/em>, p. 368 (38-31 K663).<\/p>\n<p>Brendan O'Kane has a few thoughts that are suitable for wrapping up this long post by bringing us back to the The Atlantic article with which we began:<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">Interesting &#8212; I'd seen people sharing this article, but hadn't read it until now. I'd be interested in knowing more about the course, since a lot of the content here seems to be journalistic filler. (The mention of brain scans and popular neuroscience sets off alarms for me.)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">\u00a0From what's here, it sounds like Puett is presenting an idealized form of Confucius and company as personal philosophers. He wouldn't be the first: Yu Dan, at Beijing Normal University, had a huge hit with \u8bba\u8bed\u5fc3\u5f97 &#8212; subsequently translated into English as <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Confucius-Heart-Yu-Dan\/dp\/7101067190\/\"><em>Confucius from the Heart<\/em><\/a>, though to me it'll always be <em>Chicken Soup for the Confucian Soul<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">\u00a0Regarding XIN and thought: is this a case where <a href=\"http:\/\/chineseetymology.org\/CharacterEtymology.aspx?submitButton1=Etymology&amp;characterInput=%E6%80%9D\">argument from graphs<\/a>\/\u671b\u5b57\u751f\u610f might work?<\/p>\n<p>So, we've covered a lot of ground in this inquiry, from the heart to the mind to thought and the mind-body problem.\u00a0 But where in all this is the self located?\u00a0 When it comes to the self, there was little hesitation among premodern Chinese in locating it in the nose.\u00a0 Indeed, the <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wiktionary.org\/wiki\/%E8%87%AA\">early forms of the graph for z\u00ec \u81ea (\"self\") depicted a nose<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>My wife (and many other Chinese friends and acquaintances) actually emphatically pointed to her nose (placed the end of her index finger on the tip of her nose) when she would say, \"W\u01d2 z\u00ecj\u01d0 \u6211\u81ea\u5df1\" (\"I myself\").<\/p>\n<p>For traditional Chinese, the mind may have been in the heart, but the self was in the nose.<\/p>\n<p>[Hat tip Ben Zimmer: thanks to Daniel Gardner, John Didier, Stephan Stiller, Allen Chun, Paul Goldin, and all those who are quoted or cited above]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This is another one of those posts that I wanted to write long ago (actually almost a year ago), but it got lost in the shuffle until now, when I found it going through my old drafts. 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